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⚾Ted Williams vs Honus Wagner

Head to head · Baseball

Ted Williams
#5

Ted Williams

United States · 1939–1960

VS
Honus Wagner
#9

Honus Wagner

United States · 1897–1917

Stat by stat

121.8 Career WAR 130.9
.344 Batting average .328

Bars are scaled to the leader in this list.

The verdict

Dead even across the measured categories. Our all-time ranking places Ted Williams at #5 and Honus Wagner at #9.

Head-to-head FAQ

Who leads more shared metrics?
Dead even across the measured categories.
How do the published ranks compare?
Ted Williams is ranked #5; Honus Wagner is ranked #9 in this sport’s GOAT list.
Are these live stats?
No — bars and FAQ answers are editorial, scaled teaching marks. Open the GOAT lab to rescale your own selection.

The case for Ted Williams

The purest hitter in history by nearly any rate measure. Williams's career .482 on-base percentage is the all-time record, his 1.116 OPS trails only Ruth, and his .344 average came with 521 home runs — power and discipline fused as no one has fused them since. He hit .406 in 1941, the last .400 season, famously refusing to sit on the final day and going 6-for-8 in a doubleheader to finish there. He won two Triple Crowns (1942, 1947) and somehow lost the MVP vote both times. The counterfactual defines him: he missed all of 1943-45 training as a naval aviator during World War II and most of 1952-53 flying combat missions as a Marine pilot in Korea, costing him roughly five prime years. Conservative projections put his career at 650-plus homers and near 3,300 hits. He hit .388 at age 38 and homered in his final at-bat in 1960.

The case for Honus Wagner

The Flying Dutchman was the best all-around player of the dead-ball era and, by wide agreement, the greatest shortstop who ever lived. Wagner won eight National League batting titles — a record for the position — hit .328 for his career with 3,420 hits, and stole 723 bases while playing the most demanding defensive spot at an elite level for the Pittsburgh Pirates. His 130.9 WAR trails only a handful of position players despite a game built for singles and steals rather than the home runs that inflate modern totals. He led Pittsburgh to the 1909 World Series title, outdueling Ty Cobb head to head. Bowlegged, barrel-chested, and improbably fast, he fused power, average, speed, and defense in a way the term 'five-tool player' would later be coined to describe. His scarce 1909 tobacco card, one example selling for millions, made his the most valuable name in the entire hobby of baseball collecting.

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