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⚾Ty Cobb vs Honus Wagner

Head to head · Baseball

Ty Cobb
#8

Ty Cobb

United States · 1905–1928

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Honus Wagner
#9

Honus Wagner

United States · 1897–1917

Stat by stat

151.5 Career WAR 130.9
.366 Batting average .328
4,189 Hits 3,420
897 Stolen bases 723

Bars are scaled to the leader in this list.

The verdict

Ty Cobb leads 4 of 4 categories. Our all-time ranking places Ty Cobb at #8 and Honus Wagner at #9.

Head-to-head FAQ

Who leads more shared metrics?
Ty Cobb leads 4 of 4 shared teaching metrics on this page.
How do the published ranks compare?
Ty Cobb is ranked #8; Honus Wagner is ranked #9 in this sport’s GOAT list.
Are these live stats?
No — bars and FAQ answers are editorial, scaled teaching marks. Open the GOAT lab to rescale your own selection.

The case for Ty Cobb

Cobb was the perfected weapon of dead-ball baseball: a .366 career average that stood as the official record for a century — until MLB's 2024 incorporation of Negro Leagues statistics placed Josh Gibson's .372 above it — plus 4,189 hits, 897 stolen bases, 2,245 runs, and a dozen batting titles by most counts, including nine straight from 1907 to 1915. He hit over .400 three times, won the 1909 Triple Crown without a single over-the-fence home run, and stole home 54 times, still the record. His 151.5 WAR came almost entirely from hitting and baserunning in an era when a five-homer season could lead the league. The caveats are real: he played against a segregated talent pool, his game did not project power, and his reputation for violence — partly exaggerated by a discredited biographer, partly earned — complicates his legacy. As a pure hit machine, only Gibson's shorter-season record outranks him.

The case for Honus Wagner

The Flying Dutchman was the best all-around player of the dead-ball era and, by wide agreement, the greatest shortstop who ever lived. Wagner won eight National League batting titles — a record for the position — hit .328 for his career with 3,420 hits, and stole 723 bases while playing the most demanding defensive spot at an elite level for the Pittsburgh Pirates. His 130.9 WAR trails only a handful of position players despite a game built for singles and steals rather than the home runs that inflate modern totals. He led Pittsburgh to the 1909 World Series title, outdueling Ty Cobb head to head. Bowlegged, barrel-chested, and improbably fast, he fused power, average, speed, and defense in a way the term 'five-tool player' would later be coined to describe. His scarce 1909 tobacco card, one example selling for millions, made his the most valuable name in the entire hobby of baseball collecting.

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